This piece is by David Friedman. It was delivered as a paper on 7 July 1993 at a regional meeting of the Mont Pelerin Society and later published in Liberty. This paper was one of the many reading provided for in an on-line seminar sponsored by the Friedrich Naumann Foundation in 2006.
It is often said that Adam Smith, despite his general belief in laissez-faire, made an exception for education. That is not entirely true. In the course of a lengthy and interesting discussion, Smith argues both that education is a legitimate government function, at least in some societies, and that it is a function which governments perform very badly. His conclusion is that while it is legitimate for government to subsidize education, it may be more prudent to leave education entirely private.
My purpose in this essay is to argue that Smith’s conjecture was correct. While government schooling, free and compulsory, is at present nearly universal in developed societies, the case for it is unconvincing. There are arguments for government provision of schooling, as there are arguments for government provision of any good or service, but the arguments in favor are weaker, and the arguments against stronger, than the corresponding arguments for other goods and services that we routinely leave to the private market.
The Arguments In Favor of Government Schooling
The arguments in favor of government involvement in schooling can be roughly divided into four groups: Externality arguments, information arguments, capital market failure arguments, and egalitarian arguments. I will deal with them in that order.
Externality Arguments
The most common arguments for government schooling involve the claim that it produces large positive externalities, that by schooling my children I greatly benefit society as a whole, and that it is therefore inappropriate to leave either the decision of how to school them or the cost of doing so entirely to me. On further analysis, this claim divides into three variants, one wrong and two dubious.
The simplest version is the one that is wrong. It is said that since education increases human productivity, by educating my child I increase the wealth of the whole society, making all of us better off. One obvious problem with this argument is that, if correct, it applies to a lot of things other than education. Physical capital also increases productivity; does it follow that all investments ought to be subsidized? Better transportation allows workers to spend more time working and less time commuting; should we subsidize the production of cars?
The argument suggests that everything worth doing ought to be subsidized—leaving us with the puzzle of what we are to tax in order to raise the money for the subsidies. What is wrong with this argument is that it misses is the way in which the price system already allocates “social benefits” to those who produce them. Building a factory may increase the wealth of my society—but most (in the limit of perfect competition, all) of the increase goes to the investors whose capital paid for the factory. If I use a car instead of a bus to commute, the savings in time is added either to my leisure or my income. If education makes me a more productive worker, my income will be higher as a result..
Schooling—like a new car—produces non-market benefits as well. But these too go mostly to the student, enabled by education to appreciate more of the riches of the culture he lives in. There may be effects on other people as well, but they are typically small compared to the benefits to the student, and their sign is not always clear.
When my child becomes an expert in Shakespeare and quantum mechanics one result may be to enlighten and entertain her friends, but another may be to make them feel stupid. In just the same way, the beauty of my new car may produce the pleasures of aesthetic appreciation or the pains of envy in those who watch me drive it down the street. To base the design of our institutions for schooling on the uncertain effect on such third parties rather than the direct effect on the schooled makes no more sense than to base the design of cars on their value to everyone except the owner.
Another version of the externality arguments locates the externality not in the increased economic productivity of educated people but in their increased virtue. Both religious and utilitarian variants of this justification for government schooling were popular in the nineteenth century. Conservatives wanted to use publicly controlled education to teach the masses religious virtue. Many utilitarians, including Bentham himself, believed that while freedom was a good thing in most contexts, it was necessary first to teach people how to use their freedom — which is to say, to teach them utilitarianism. A form of this argument which still remains popular holds that uneducated people are particularly likely to become criminals, justifying government schooling as a form of crime control.
The thesis has two versions—education and indoctrination. The first assumes that crime and sin are the result of ignorance rather than rational choice. The evidence for this thesis is far from clear.
The indoctrination version of the argument may make somewhat more sense. In a private system, children will be taught what their parents want them to know. In a government system, children will be taught what the state wants them to know.
So the government system provides an opportunity for the state to indoctrinate children in beliefs that it is not in their interest, or their parents’ interest, for them to hold. Insofar as some virtues require one to act against one’s own interest—for instance, by not stealing something even when nobody is watching—that is an opportunity to indoctrinate children in virtue.
One good reply to this argument was made by William Godwin, who, in 1796, expressed his hope “that mankind will never have to learn so important a lesson through so corrupt a channel.” To put the argument in more modern language, government schooling does indeed provide the state with an opportunity to indoctrinate children—but there is no good reason to believe that it will be in the interest of the state to indoctrinate them in beliefs that it is in the interest of the rest of us for them to hold.
One final version of the externality argument is the claim that my education provides benefits to others because it makes me a more rational voter. While the argument is logically correct, its implications are limited. It is perhaps best understood as an argument for subsidy, not control. It is in my private interest to have a correct understanding of the world around me, and such an understanding will make me more able to evaluate government policy as well as more able to make private decisions. The only argument for government control is that it can force me to learn more about issues relevant to voting, instead of issues relevant to private choice. The problem with this is that the agency that does the controlling has its own interest with regard to how I vote—which brings us back to the indoctrination argument.
What negative externalities might result from schooling? One I have just mentioned—you may use your improved education to more effectively pressure the government to benefit you at my expense. A similar possibility exists for private transfers. Ignorance may perhaps produce crime—but education produces more competent criminals.
Another possibility is that schooling may produce negative externalities because it is used in the competitive pursuit of status. Consumption bundles of physical goods and services are not the only thing that individuals care about. If one reason I wish more schooling for myself or my children is so that I or they will have more income or more degrees than my neighbor or his children, and if my neighbor has similar tastes, then the gains of each come at the other’s expense.
I conclude that externality arguments provide little independent support for government schooling. At most they suggest that private schooling ought to receive some subsidy—and even that conclusion is an uncertain one, given both the weaknesses of the arguments for the existence of net positive externalities and the difficulty of separating subsidy from control.
Information Arguments
Another argument is that government schooling is necessary because parents, being themselves inadequately educated, are incompetent to choose schooling for their children.
As John Stuart Mill put it, “The uncultivated cannot be competent judges of cultivation.” This argument concedes that government schools will teach what the state wants children to learn instead of what their parents want them to learn, but views that as an advantage of the government system.
This argument seems to justify at most one generation of government schooling. Once we educate the first generation, they should then be competent to choose an education for their children. The U.S. and Britain have now had universal government schooling for at least five or six generations. If it has done a good job of educating students it should now be unnecessary, and if it has done a bad job perhaps we should try something else.
A further problem with the argument is that most of what the government schools actually teach—or, too often, fail to teach—is well within the comprehension of virtually all parents. Insofar as the main business of the schools is to teach children the basic skills needed to function in our society, the children’s parents are usually competent to judge how good a job is being done. Even a parent who cannot read can still tell whether his child can. And, while a few educational issues may go beyond the parents’ competence to judge, parents qua parents, like parents qua taxpayers, have the option of making use of other people’s expert opinion. The crucial difference between the two roles is that a parent deciding what school his child shall go to has a far stronger incentive to form as accurate an opinion as possible, than does a parent deciding how to vote.
Parents have one other advantage over educational administrators—a flood of detailed free information. By observing their children, and by listening to them, parents can learn a great deal about how well they are being schooled. As West put it, describing the situation in England in the 19th century, “Parents were their own inspectors and, compared with official ones, they were not only much more numerous but exercised continuous rather than periodic check.”
Parental preferences have often clashed with “expert educational opinion,” but it has not always been the parents who turned out to be in the wrong. Thus in Scotland, around 1800, parents “Increasingly resisted traditional parochial school emphasis on classical languages and Religion ... Parents complained that their children did not get their due in the school ‘By not having been teached writing.’” Modern examples might include the controversies associated with the shift away from phonics and towards the look-see approach to teaching literacy and the introduction of the “new math” somewhat later—both arguably among the causes of the massive decline in the output of the American school system from 1960 to 1980. Parents have to live with the results of educational experiments; the educators can always go on to a new generation of experimental subjects.
Capital Market Failure
The special problems of investing in human capital are sometimes offered as an argument for government intervention in schooling. If I wish to borrow money to pay for a profitable investment in building a factory, I can offer the factory as collateral. If I wish to make a profitable investment in my own education, I have no similar option.
How important this argument is depends on whether the unit of analysis is the individual or the family. If it is the family, then the argument applies to only a small fraction of the population. Most families can pay the cost of schooling their children out of current income.
Indeed, most families do pay the cost of schooling their children out of current income—in the form of taxes to support government schools. Such expenditures might be harder for those with large families and low incomes than they are now and easier for those with small families and high incomes. On the other hand, there is evidence that private schools provide a given level of education at a considerably lower cost than government schools. If so, most parents would face a lower burden under a completely private system. The market failure argument would then apply only to a small fraction of families at the bottom of the income distribution.
So far as that part of the population is concerned, several points are worth noting. The first is that it makes very little sense to construct a government school system for everyone in order to subsidize investments in human capital for a few percent of the population. The second is that the present system does a very bad job of educating just those people who would have the hardest time educating themselves, which casts some doubt on the idea that it is, for them, an improvement on a purely private system. The third is that the evidence of the nineteenth century suggests that even quite poor people are able to provide their children at least a minimal education. British workers of the early nineteenth century were very much poorer than the inhabitants of America’s inner cities at present.
Yet the evidence suggests that most were able, without government help, to buy enough education for their children to provide at least minimal literacy—more than many inner city children get now. Additional issues arise if we consider the problem from the standpoint of the child rather than the family. Most families can afford to pay for schooling their children, but very few children can afford to pay for schooling themselves. A private system depends, for almost all children, on parents caring enough about the welfare of their children to be willing to pay the cost of their education.
Most parents, in most societies, do care for the welfare of their children.
The alternative to allowing parents to make decisions for their children is not, as a general rule, having the decisions made by the children—five year olds lack not only income, but information and political power as well. The alternative to having a child’s parents make decisions for him is having other adults—school administrators, politicians, voters—make those decisions. Parents may not always be altruistic towards their children, but a child’s parents are, of all adults, the ones most likely to be. The argument against letting the parents make the decision is even stronger arguments against letting anyone else make it instead.
Here again, the empirical evidence is striking. Under circumstances of poverty difficult for most of us to imagine, British parents of the early 19th century managed to send almost all of their children to school—not for as long as our children go to school, but for long enough to acquire at least minimal skills. In this country a century later, immigrant parents routinely sacrificed themselves to promote the education of their children. We have yet to see any similar level of altruism on the part of those who control the government schools—say a teacher strike aimed at lowering teacher wages in order to leave more money to pay for books.
The Egalitarian Argument
A final, and powerful, argument against an entirely private system of schooling is that it promotes and perpetuates inequality. Wealthier parents will spend more on their children, making those children in turn better educated, more successful, and wealthier.
In order to give a child from a poor and badly educated family as a good an education as a child from a rich and well educated family, it would, on average, be necessary to spend substantially more on the former.
There are at least two possible replies to that argument. One is that our objective ought to be education, not equality. If shifting to an entirely private system improves the education of the bottom half of the income distribution a little and the education of the top half a lot, both groups are better off. Pursuing that line of argument would take me farther a field than I intend to go in this essay.
A second reply is that while a completely private system would indeed result in unequal educational accomplishment, so does our present government system—and it is far from obvious which leads to more inequality. At present, the quality of government schools varies enormously and non-randomly from place to place.
One reason is that high income suburbs, on average, can and do spend more on their schools than low income inner cities, although in the U.S. this difference has probably decreased in recent years as a result of legal pressures. A second reason is that the children of affluent and well educated parents are, on the whole, easier to educate and to be educated with than the children of the inner city poor. A third may well be that affluent suburbanites are better than the inner city poor at getting political institutions to act in their interest.
The first two effects would still exist in an entirely private system, but several factors might reduce the inequality they now produce. A private system would be less rigidly geographical than the present government system. Poor parents with bright children who were willing to sacrifice for them, as many have been in the past, would have the option of sending them to better schools instead of being limited to the school district where they happened to live.
Such arrangements are technically possible in a government system as well, and occasionally permitted, but not often—perhaps because they transfer power from the schooling bureaucracy to parents.
Another advantage of the private system, from the standpoint of poor parents, is that parents could control what they got without having to acquire political power—which poor people, as a rule, have very little of. Subject to the limits of their income, poor people have the same economic power as anyone else—the ability to choose whom they buy from.
A final advantage is that a private system might actually provide poor children with some education. Under our present system, the largest determinant of educational output is family background. One explanation of that is that parents are a major part of their children’s environment and thus a major source of their education. But a second explanation may be that our schools do not do a very good job of teaching, making children more dependent than they need be on the education they get from those around them. If so, poor children, who are in more need than rich children of things they cannot get from their parents, might well benefit more from a general improvement in the schools.
History
In many areas of human activity there are two histories—the popular history, mostly mythological, and the real history. In education, quite a lot of the real history has been provided by E. G. West. In examining the history of the rise of government schooling in Britain and the U.S., he has established several important points which go far to refute the popular idea that mass education can exist only through the intervention of the state. They are:
1. Schooling expenditure in Britain represented about the same fraction of national income prior to government intervention and compulsory schooling laws as it did after both were introduced.
2. Prior to government involvement, almost all children were going to school.
3. Attempts to measure educational output in the form of literacy, using both a variety of studies at particular times and a crude measure (percentage of grooms who signed their names when they got married) that is available over a long time period, show no significant effect of government intervention. So far as one can tell by the (very imperfect) evidence, literacy was already rising rapidly prior to the beginning of government subsidy. Most of the measured increase in literacy had already occurred by the time a nationwide system of government schools and compulsory attendance was established.
4. The eventual expansion of the government school system was in large part the result of efforts by the people running it, plausibly explained by their own self-interest. Its main effect was to replace, not to supplement, the pre-existing private system.
The Voucher Alternative
I have been considering two alternatives—government and private schooling. Another alternative, in some ways intermediate between the two, is for the state to provide a fixed amount per pupil per year, which may be used to buy schooling from any of a variety of private providers. How well does such a system deal with the problems we have discussed?
A voucher system solves some of the problems associated with market failure on the human capital market. Families that are too poor to pay to send their children to school will be able to use the voucher to pay for schooling. Parents who do not care enough for their children to be willing to pay for their schooling will be able to use vouchers to provide schooling for their children at no cost to themselves. A voucher system might also reduce educational inequality, relative to both government and private systems. It would not, however, eliminate inequality, both because parents would be free to supplement the voucher and because the parents themselves are a major input to the child’s education.
Whether a voucher answers the arguments of those who believe that parents are incompetent to control their children’s schooling, either because they have the wrong objectives or because they have the right objectives but not enough knowledge to achieve them, depends on how much control the state exercises over schools that accept vouchers.
This suggests an important disadvantage of vouchers. If the government is paying the piper, it may well choose to call the tune. If it is giving vouchers to pay for education, it will probably want to determine what counts as education. Thus a voucher system, like a government school system, has the potential to be used either to encourage indoctrination or to redirect “educational expenditure” to benefit politically well organized groups such as school teachers and administrators. While one could design a voucher system to minimize such problems, perhaps by permitting schools to qualify if the mean performance of their students on objective exams matched the mean performance of students at government run schools, it is far from clear that such a system could be either passed or maintained.
Conclusion
There are arguments in favor of having government pay for and produce schooling, as there are arguments in favor of having government pay for and produce practically any good or service. I have tried to show that the arguments in the case of schooling are not very strong.
There are also arguments against having government produce and pay for any good—the arguments for political failure combined with the general economic argument that private markets tend, at least in some approximation, to produce the optimal output at the minimal cost. In the case of schooling, there are additional and very powerful arguments against government control. One of the most important is its potential use to indoctrinate the population in views that the government, or the schooling bureaucracy, or powerful lobbying groups, wish people to hold.
In this regard, one of the great disadvantages of government schooling is its uniformity. Any education can be viewed as indoctrination from the standpoint of those who do not believe what is being taught. Under a private system, however, there is no single orthodoxy.
Different children are taught different things, reflecting the differing preferences of their parents and, to a lesser degree, the beliefs of teachers, textbook authors, and other contributors to the educational process. As adults, the graduates of such schools have the opportunity to correct the deficiencies in their education by interacting with the graduates of other schools who have been taught very different things. Under a government system, there is a serious risk that one official orthodoxy will be taught to all.
A further disadvantage to state education, especially in a diverse society, is that it inevitably involves a state religion. One cannot educate children without talking about issues on which religions differ. The pretence of a religiously neutral education, at least in the U.S., is maintained mainly by the tendency of teachers, like other people, to regard what they believe in as fact and only what other people believe in as religion. A government school system in a diverse society is thus deeply divisive, since it means that some people’s children are being indoctrinated with other people’s religion.
Many of the disadvantages of government schooling could be eliminated, or at least reduced, by a voucher system. While such a system would be a great improvement over government schooling, there seems little reason to believe that it would be superior to an entirely private system. The great argument against it is that a voucher system must include some definition of what is or is not schooling, in order to determine what can be paid for with the voucher. Imposing such a definition on private schools implies the same sorts of problems of government control that would arise with a government school system, although possibly to a much reduced degree.
I conclude that Adam Smith was correct in his suggestion. Whether or not it is proper to have a government system of schooling, it is prudent not to.
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whew! that was long!
anyway, as i am reading the blog, i remember the words from our great professor, Mr. Macdonald Pascual.
It is about the increase in tuition fee in PUP.. Samasa says that it should not increase because the government should be the one to support our education as a 'state' university.He said that the increase should not be questioned. First,we only have 12 pesos per unit, many students, perhaps, will not mind if he drops a subject or two. Nor would he mind if there is no professor, if the professor given to them are not that good, or spend their time outside classroom, 'shouting'.
Second, if tuition fee will increase, maybe those students who were complaining about their classrooms having no electric fans, or poor facilities of the school will have the answers to their prayers.. i think these is the answer to their prayers.
Having attended bot private and public schools, I can say that there is high expectations from the students in private schools, other than those in public schools, even though there are some students who are more intelligent than those in private schools. Also, lessons taught in public schools, I must admit, are far more different than those in private schools. I hate to say these, but in our province, it is left behind by the lessons taught in private schools. Maybe, these are the reasons why there is more respect to those students from private schools than the students from public schools.
Who knows if PUP will still be subsidized by the government in the near future? Besides, there is nothing permanent in this world but change.
hmmm.. when i was reading this blog, it seems kinda boring but as you are reading it, it unravels much knowledge thus making it a worhtwhile reading.... in my opinion our government is not fit to handle all forms of education... simply because of the danger of indoctrinating our fututre generation to something that would not be helpful... a govt controlled school system would most likely be able to make our future gneration believe in something that might be benificial to some people but not to everyone... a good alternative for this is the voucher system... if our parents can choose the school where they want their kids to learn.. the ycan choose a school that will have the same belief as them, either political or spiritual...
All I can say is,, education here in the Philippines is poor. Budget for education are most likely spend on the things or establish that the government think that it will be helpful. In some ways, it maybe yes but, there are things that must be prioritized aside from those establishments they think that can help. Instead of making a school or an university presentable, why not spend that budget for books, computers ans other things that will surely enhance the quality of education. That will be more helpful than those of 'nonsense' things.
That's all.
Reyjel A. Buan
BPS II-2
i hate the situation that has been haunting our society, corruption is not hidden to the public anymore. due to this problem, many are affected and the country continues its course towards the abyss.
i once viewed the show 'imbestigador' and its all about the great countries that have triumphed against poverty. lets take Singapore as an example. if you have seen that show last saturday that i was talking about, you will see how far are they from the philippines. almost everything in their country is number one!
thanks to better allocation of funds, the have managed to be admired by other neighboring countries.
i always ask myself, if rizal could just see our situation right now, could he exchange his life for us?
i think he wont, not one damn bit. for him, education is the way to liberate us from ignorance, but does the government think otherwise? does the government think that bullets are better than books? if they continue to believe these questions that i have asked, dont be shocked if one day, there will be no more PUP. and all schools are turned into military academies and we're all trained to become soldiers to be puppets of madame gloria.
if self interest will just be set aside and the betterment of the country and countrymen will just be put to first in the minds of all government employed workers, i think we could surpass even the 'first world' countries and even become more powerful than the united states.
i think the problem with us filipinos is we're already numbed by our present situation, we dont care anymore.
WHEN WILL WE EVER BE EDUCATED???
I have to scan it again to refresh my mind. One of my professors asked us, why do we need to study? Education shapes a person, wherever it came from it still has the same end result, though based it here has different perspectives.
Subsidizing education is one of the main roles of the government to its society. It is stated, by the way, in sec. 17 of Article 2 of the 1987 Constitution of the Philippines that the state shall give priority to education whether it is a government school or private school. I guess, education prepares every person to seek for the truth, to discover who they really are, to uncover their goals, to unleash their own ideas on certain things, to build their perspectives on life, society, and so forth.
People nowadays have been very competitive, educated or uneducated, cultured or not because I have learned, since I entered college, that there are two kinds of person living in this duress world, the intelligent ones and the “madiskarte” ones, as what other people termed it. Those who survive in this crucial world should have, at least, one of these characteristics or else, well you know what may happen and that education not only comes from inside the schools, it can also be outside the classrooms. If ever all the school nowadays is government subsidized, uniformity knowledge might have been possible and it may also lead us to differentiate the wrong doings of the people around us since we have a consensus idea but it may also lead us to non-competitive knowledgeable persons. And that I don’t want to happen. Uniformity knowledge would be impossible nowadays because we are socially learning with different happenings to our country, and even in the world, that teaches us something.
Regarding with the idea of this author that private system teaches children what the parents want to know them while government system teaches children what the state wants to know them has the same goal though different in ways. Parents may have been the power to choose where their children would study but the children still holds to power to know what is right and wrong. With the statement of the author, does he mean that the parents want their children to know only about science, math, language, values, and family matter, while government wants them to know only about the economics, politics, international relations and government? I assumed that what the parents and the government want the children to know covers everything. Every knowledge both, the parents and government, can produce to be able to have a productive children is their goal. They want the children to be rational and not ignorant.
Practically speaking for our country, money does count when you’re talking about education. Either if you’re studying in government subsidized school or private school, you still need money to be able to go to school. Apparently, poor people don’t have any choice which means transferring of power of schooling bureaucracy to parents is not possible, except if their child is a genius; those who have choice are the rich and average people who could choose where they would study. With this fact, the idea of inequality has already been built. School subsidized by the government only makes it a bit easier for poor people to acquire education. In private schools, knowing the fact that some of them offers scholarships which is intended for intelligent persons, have an expensive amount of education. Our government has always taking actions to level things up with the private schools, though not financially but in quality competitive education system.
At the end of the day, whether our education comes from either government school or private school, they have the same goal: for us to learn. Also, we, the youth, have our own ideas and aspirations which makes education viably transparent. Education is everywhere, we have no excuse to be ignorant.
~joy ann n. raguindin~
BPS 2-2
Many people, possibly even most people, think or suspect that it's important for the government to control schools for a number of reasons that the gov't make sure equal educational opportunity is available to everyone, to force parents who might otherwise neglect their children, to make education affordable for everyone and to help create a common social fabric where all are respected and accepted.
Let's admit that there are good points for we to applaud the gov't by their interest of getting involved in education but there are also numbers of reasons for us to dissent with that idea. reasons like.
Gov't schooling stands in direct opposition to the liberty this country was founded on. And the gov't has no right to to force one group of people's ideology to others.It will fosters unquestioning obedience, acceptable of authority, herd mentality and dependency.Students learn that above all else, they cannot know anything until they are taught, or until they are told they are right or wrong. It undermines the families and other relationships. it undermines the ability of a parents to provide their children with the quality and type of education they desire for them. By implying or teaching that parents are backward and unenlightened-that teacher knows best and by monopolizing increasingly larger portions of children's lives. And it makes the students be the victims of political changes and social interests. By saying " don't blame the gov't", has no choice but to teach within meaningless contexts. Whose meaning should it endorse? Basically, it will teach the good points of the gov't. Students learn that a certain level of morality of right and wrong, does exist, but they are lead to believe it exists as a creation of the state.
At the end of the day, if we would like to recover or like to feel the true essnce of freedom. We must begin at beginning. Freedom is not provided by law, or by constitution. Freedom exists only in the hearts and minds, in the words and manners, of a people.
hi ser! ako ulet. ANG HABA NG POST! hahaha. sa sobrang haba e di ko na naintindihan lahat habang nagbabasa, pero nag take note ako dun sa mga main points ng essay.. eto yung koment ko dun..
lahat ng tao e kailangang mag-aral o mabigyan ng edukasyon habang bata pa.. yung pinagtataka ko lang e halos lahat ng magulang e sa teacher na talaga pinagkakatiwala yung anak, yung tipong "turuan mo yang anak ko kasi binabayaran kita".. parang ampanget debah?! siguro mas ok kung sa magulang muna magsisimula yung edukasyon ng isang bata bago sa guro.. yun halos ang problema ngayon sa mga mag-aaral lalo na sa mga private schools kasi mga mayayaman tapos nasa exclusive schools.. sa school nag-aaral sila tapos paguwi sa bahay wala yung magulang kasi nasa trabaho.. so, di nakakapag aral yung anak kasi walang gumagabay sa kanila pag nasa bahay.. yung maganda dun, dapat yung magulang muna magturo sa mga anak nila bago iwanan sa teacher yung anak nila.. kasi iba din yung mga natututunan sa school at sa bahay..
isa pa, dun tayo sa private at public schooling.. sa mga banda tulad ng United States, France, United Kingdom, Australia ay parang mas mataas pa ang kalidad ng mga public schools.. magaganda ang facilities, madameng mag-aaral, libre o discounted ang tuition fee, sikat na pangalan ng school o university, mga teacher o prof na malulupet magturo, malalakeng library.. etc.. pero pagdating dito sa Pilipinas, ang public school ay mainit, sira-sirang bintana at pinto, mga tamad at mababagsik na teachers, kulang-kulang na facilities, walang CR, walang budget.. naiisip ko tuloy. kung ang public school sa ibang bansa e kasing gaganda ng mga private schools dito.. panu pa kaya ang mga public schools dito? dapat mas tuunan ng pansin ng gobyerno ang edukasyon kesa sa pagpapayaman nila.. o kaya, tumulong ang mga malalake at mayayamang private schools natin para makasabay din ang mga public schools o mga state university.. tignan mo nalang yung HARVARD STATE UNIVERSITY.. diba parehas lang yan sa PUP na isa ding state university? pero ang laki ng pinagkaiba nila.. sana ganyan gawin ng gobyerno.. para pag pagdating ng panahon e wala nang mangmang sa Pilipinas..
unahin dapat ng gobyerno ang edukasyon. lalo na sa mga tagong lugar na kung saan e walang mga batang nag-aaral kasi walang paaralan.. kung meron man e limang bundok pa tatawirin nila para makapag-aral. maswerte pa yung batang nag-aaral sa public school na may natututunan at may ganang pumasok kesa dun sa nagaaral sa private school na puro lang papogi at chiks lang ang habol sa school.. ahaha
dagdagan pa sana ng gobyerno ang mga paaralan.. lalo na sa mga tagong lugar..
madami sanang teacher ang mag-aral ng mabuti para makaturo ng maayos sa mga estudyante.. sa kanila kasi nagmumula ang kaalaman namin.
mabigyan sana ng tama o mataas na budget ang mga public schools at mga state university..
at.. mag-aral ng mabuti ang mga estudyanteng kagaya ko.. ^_^
yun lang po masasabi ko ser. salamat!
RENZ JEROME F. VILLANUEVA
BSIT 2-4
PUP STA.MESA
EDUCATION!!!!
...as i go on reading the blog,i realized that it was about my profession, our profession, a student.A student that is building the future, on the other hand that future has been given a choice.We students know that it is our right to be educated,if course by our parents with the presence of the government.Its because, by this, we can be better in what we want to achieve.
Now,we are given here a choices,argument rather.Public or private way of educating a person.A crucial choice.Im with the argument.Even though we have that,we are the one to decide ourselves.
As we have seen nowadays,educational issue is on "hot seat".For example, the issue on subsidizing on a certain school which is,to think,unreasonable one.As for me im not really in favor for that.First and for most the student and the parents will suffer for the change especially those that can't afford very expensive rate.Private education is not the answer,still public education can be effective one to teach student,to let the poor and deserving one not only for the few, and the most important is this will remain a hope for the students that depend only to the what the government can do for them.It means this was the type that can benefit most of all in the society.
Im from a public school when im in high school,now that this is the situation,im really sad for the others if this policy would happen.
For the government,don't they feel bad that this was happening in the education of our country?In the reality,the students,most of all,did not learn what is teachig to them in school.Its because they are not comfortable in everything around them in four sides of their rooms.From the teacher,which some are not very able,and to the facilities that greatly affect them.Its very tiring to demand and demand to all of that if you are a student because nothing.When does the time that we can say that education in our country is effective,the best???Besides,we all know the answer to that,its us....
YOUTH is the future.They should be educated.Build the future by giving them whats the right for them....
Someday,somehow I will have a child which i'll be send to school so i pray someday it will be much better....EDUCATION!!!!
EDUCATION!!!!
...as i go on reading the blog,i realized that it was about my profession, our profession, a student.A student that is building the future, on the other hand that future has been given a choice.We students know that it is our right to be educated,if course by our parents with the presence of the government.Its because, by this, we can be better in what we want to achieve.
Now,we are given here a choices,argument rather.Public or private way of educating a person.A crucial choice.Im with the argument.Even though we have that,we are the one to decide ourselves.
As we have seen nowadays,educational issue is on "hot seat".For example, the issue on subsidizing on a certain school which is,to think,unreasonable one.As for me im not really in favor for that.First and for most the student and the parents will suffer for the change especially those that can't afford very expensive rate.Private education is not the answer,still public education can be effective one to teach student,to let the poor and deserving one not only for the few, and the most important is this will remain a hope for the students that depend only to the what the government can do for them.It means this was the type that can benefit most of all in the society.
Im from a public school when im in high school,now that this is the situation,im really sad for the others if this policy would happen.
For the government,don't they feel bad that this was happening in the education of our country?In the reality,the students,most of all,did not learn what is teachig to them in school.Its because they are not comfortable in everything around them in four sides of their rooms.From the teacher,which some are not very able,and to the facilities that greatly affect them.Its very tiring to demand and demand to all of that if you are a student because nothing.When does the time that we can say that education in our country is effective,the best???Besides,we all know the answer to that,its us....
YOUTH is the future.They should be educated.Build the future by giving them whats the right for them....
Someday,somehow I will have a child which i'll be send to school so i pray someday it will be much better....EDUCATION!!!!
Sir, Whew!, that's quite a read!! Hmmm.. what can i say.. A very long essay to tell us that government schooling is maybe a not good thing after all.. I think I do understand that all these arguments implies of disadvantages in state education and its big difference from private schooling.. In which case I am not agree with those arguments. I don't know.. It's maybe because I am studying in a state college, or maybe I have a right to learn from school even though I do lack of money to pay for the tuition fee.
Actually, there are some arguments of which I don't quite understand, like the Capital Market Failure.. Is it connected to the income of parents to pay for the tuition fee of their son / daughter if they can afford it? Government has done a big part for the schooling of people who don't have much money to study in a private school. I think many will become more stupid if the Government haven't done anything about the education.
We are only in a developing country, indeed we are not in the same path as of the other great countries. I must agree with Adam Smith but we are not on the right track to do something like that in our current state. Prudent or not, the suggestion of Adam Smith is correct but we dont have to use his ideas for our country.
Malaki kasi talaga ang pagkakaiba ng sistema ng edukasyon natin kesa dun sa ibang bansa.. A big gap. hindi mapera ang karamihan ng tao sa Pilipinas.. And ang nakikita kong problema ay ang hindi maayos na sistema sa government schooling kaya naman napakalaking pagkakaiba nila sa Private System.. Thank You Very Much..
Mart Ellis M. Cueto
BSIT 2-4D
CCMIT
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Meiko Lapay
BSIT 2-4
Hi sir! Naalala ko tuloy 'yung sinabi sa napanood ko, "Mas uunlad ang buhay, kung may pinag-aralan."
I think may mas advantage pa rin ang public schools. Kahit 'di ko pa naranasan mag-aral sa isang private school, mas aware ang mga estudyante sa loob ng public schools about sa government.
Iba pa rin ang sa government schools kasi kahit sa public school, may mga mayayaman na kaya namang mag-afford sa private. Practical lang siguro sila. May tiwala rin naman sila sa turo sa public schools,e.
Kung budget ang pag-uusapan, ayun nga. Mababa ang public schools doon. Pero as long na may willing magturo sa school na 'yun at may willing matuto, money doesn't matter. Quality pa rin.
Kung titingin ka sa schooling sa ibang bansa, malayo nga compare dito sa Pilipinas. Mas tutok kasi talaga 'yung ibang bansa sa education ng mga mamamayan nila.
First priority naman ng government ang education pero para sa mga nag-aaral sa PUP, parang hindi nangyayari 'yun.
Sa tingin ko, it doesn't matter kung mag-aaral ka sa private o government school. Nasa estudyante lang 'yun kung mag-aaral siyang mabuti o hindi. Lahat naman ng school may magandang naituturo sa mga estudyante,e...imposibleng wala. May mga bagay na sa public mo lang matututunan. May iba naman na sa private lang. Pantay lang.
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...when i was reading the posted blog, i was surprised that it was too long.i felt quite sleepy when reading it but as i go along i found out that it was very informative.why?its because the main topic is about education and we all know that it is one of the rights of the child to be educated.we as a youth should prioritize education because it has been said that the youth as qouted by dr. rizal "ang pag-asa ng bayan" which is also true should be the one who have to take it seriously because it is the main foundation to have a good future.looking at the situation here in our country,we all know that we belong to the so called third world country and the question that lingers my mind is that is our government serious in doing things on how we can be a progressive country? do they really prioritize education? i myself is a public student from pre-school up to now that im already college.i found a difference between those who study in private than in public because my sister is a private student since pre-school up to her college.it is really different because when you are in private schools,the students are more focused on their studies.the lesson that i come up with it is that the government should allocate more on the education rather than in any matter because it is also stated in the constitution that the state should give priority to the education. i hope that someday education here in our country is one of the things that we can be proud of because someday we will have our own children and we dont want them to have a poor education.
for me, no matter what kind of system we have(private education or public education), it is in the hand of those people who will manage the system that this will come in sucess. I believe that indoctrinating students are not only exist in SUC's but also in private schools. If we come up to the idea of privatization of all the SUC's and public schools we will neglecting the idea of having a nation that the education is the air that are free and afordable for all it's citizen..
I, being a student and activist think that in private school you experience artificial world, almost perfect, but in SUC's you will experience the real world, world that have both perfect and anxiety.
filipinos are not ready for this kind of set up. Iknow that the government is lacking budget in subsidiesing SUC's. But come to think of it, if now our out of school youth are increasing for the reason of poverty how much it can be if this concept will come out in nreality?
Jess Alvin Espinosa
BPS II-2
...i believe that teachers can influence their students as far as they can,i think that education for the students depends on their teachers no matter it is private school or in public schools.
-LArry G. Vergara
bPS II-2
as i was reading this blog i feel very sad about mo situation.
the fact of having poor education in our country, the misadventures of every students in universities and in academies. but still people make use if their abilities to ovecome this lackness of things that are present in our society.
i think it's not just the teacher that influence the students, the fact that students are taught and have their own understanding of what they wanted and what they needed. this is not all about misallocation of budgets but it is also misinterpretations of people on what to do. i think the government makes a step to step way of making a better tommorow for the people of our country and it is not bad for us to help them as a citizen of this nation. people have different views in their life but we all have the same goal so why do we always need to give all of our effort in stinky things if we ourselves can make a better future. and as a student do the best ever thing that we can do not just for our country but also for ourselves coz blaming someone is not the solution to study better.
people always blame the government for whatever they wanted that they cannot afford, but it is not the solution. the best sokution is to start at yourself, make the best turn in your life, and as a student this is our way and our choice and so someday there will be no more blaming of misallocations. and i think our country can have the brightest future..
i consider education as one of the most important priority of a person,this would be our stepping stone in a better way of living. and in the case of private or government schools,?for me, it really doesnt matter. it depends on the student if he/ she is really interested in studying. the problem is not on school or even on our professor,it's on us,students! i guess we should prioritized our studies!
Hei! It’s almost Thursday and I was quite relaxed to see 14 comments as this moment. I thought I’m again one of the last ones post-pioneering in blogging.
ahh… here I go..
Men in nature had this drive for knowledge. The search for truth… is the purpose of Education. And for me, I think it’s a choice-whether to be institutionally educated or not. It is the very essence of your being to discover things you don’t know. Getting answers to these questions depends upon the person’s perseverance to learn. In any ways he could do.
The establishment of a state, for example boils down to very reason that people want to ‘have an order’ or ‘to be in order’.
Its funny thinking that they want somebody (in this sense something) that will put them in harmony. Then after sometime, retort the scene.
It is important to note that our society taught us that having an education could make us difference in us, a crown that give us these titles.
In the other hand, I somewhat relate to the thoughts of the author in this “indoctrination” thing that is served in the essay. I somewhat remember our literature professor saying these bad effects of specialization in our society setting complications in the background.
There are many point as to which I think our class would be dynamic if we had enough time to scrutinize some of it. But to at least rest this, let me leave the opportunity for the other bloggers to make their queries.
-Brian Lloyd E. Belen
BPS II-2d
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for me,education must be the top priority of our government.
quality education is really relevant in transforming ordinary people into a good, responsible, rational, and a productive citizen.
why education?does quality education hard to achieve?
nowadays,the situation of poverty in our beloved country is getting worst.many people suffers massive financial problems that their money is not enough as to their vital needs are concern.
food, shelter and clothes.most of the people here in our country, especially the urban poors and people in rural areas, allocate their money in these three options.but,how about education? maybe,many will say that there's already a public school existing in their area,besides,their money is not enough to fund the schooling of their children. well,maybe our government do their job to help people in acheiving education.but,its not our point. our main concern here is if the government makes an extra effort to raise a good and quality education for its people.
corruptions,lots of incompetent elementary and high school teachers, budget cuts for the state universities, and many more. its really hard to imagine what kind of humans are the inhabitants of this country for the next generation.
this education crisis is serious, as far as "productivity" of one nation or country is being measured.
-john felix lledo
BPS 2-2
As I opened the site, I was surprised that it was long. But I think that it is worth reading. I would like first to describe the status quo of education in our country. I can say that education in our country is not that good especially nowadays. I can say nowadays, because back then we are one of those countries who have a high literacy rate. But it is the opposite now. Private education is much better than public education or those run by the government. Why? Because the budget allocated for education is not that enough. Section 17 of Article 2 of the 1987 Constitution provides that “the State shall give priority to education, science and technology, arts, culture and sports to foster patriotism, accelerate social progress and promote total human liberation and development”. But it is not what I am seeing nowadays. Probably, I am not just the one who noticed it but a majority of the populace. Schools run by government are not that good, primarily because of low budget. The government allots more to defense and foreign debt. A very good example is our dearest university, Polytechnic University of the Philippines. We can say that the facilities of our school are not that good. Not to mention some professors who are not teaching. We can not blame them, since they don’t receive their benefits. Poor education does not only happen at tertiary education. It also happens during primary education. And as we all know, primary education is important in the sense that it will serve as the basic unit or the fundamentals of the education of a certain individual. It is important to have good foundations. It can be seen in the media that public schooling is not that good considering the facilities and lack of development. Aside from that, there is this so called “geographical problem”. It is quite known to us that education in Manila is better than the province. I think the governmnnt should really focus on education. If a certain school needs to be subsidize, then subsidize it. The government must always remember that the youth are the very foundation of the nation. Educating them will be good for the future generation. Indeed, the article is very good even though it is long. Despite that, I know that there’s a lot to comment.
Fatima Diane Rempillo
BPS II-2
Well, there's no difference if you're studying in a public or in a private school.. It always depends on the student on how they're going to handle their studies..
But sometimes, the school provider should also be aware on the quality education of their students..
Trizzia May V. Paril
BSIT2-4D
(sir sana po next time medyo maikli ng konti ung post, ang haba o kasi eh, nahirapan po ako sa paglalagay ng comment,,,)
"fter i read this, i remember the public high school in our town, ang lesson nila ay medyo late compare dun sa lesson namin."
this post reflects on what we experience here in our own university. The university wants to increase tuition fee because the government cannot give the alloted budget for our university.
There is a discrimination between the private and the public univ. which must be avoided.
In my opinion,private college or univ. can supplement the more effective education rather than a gov't state U. Because of the facilities and the alloted budget came from the tuition fee of the students.(but the knowledge the students can gain will depend on their capacity to learn.)
erueen m, megino
pup-bsit 2-4d
sir infairness mahabaaaa sya... heheh
but as read the your post, it is about education di ba?? education is one of the important thing in our life.. ano sya hindi sya priviledge kundi isang karapatan di ba?? and ang education is not based kung nagaral ka sa public o private school, what important is that natututo ung student... sa government natin.... mas makakatulong sila siguro sa mga state U kung magdadagdag sila ng budget dito kahit na hindi na for beautification basta makakahelp para sa mas epektibong pag-aaral ng mga bata.
that's all...
-feliz angelynne mangahas
bsit2-4d
There's the catch. Another painful bite of reality, the truth that the government subsidized schooling system has definitely a lot of weaknesses, defects, and failures to look out for and make up. Amazingly, its not just happening in our country but as well as to other countries too. Which just shows that a lot of things are to be dealt with when it comes to building and enriching the educational system through the use of government efforts.
But technically speaking, education and government in my belief, should be treated as separate formsof institution, though I greatly agree to the fact that education (specially here in our country) badly needs aid and support coming from the government, because they are considered as the the main pillars who forms and runs the society as a part of man's well being. The social and economical sectors are barely dependent on how well the the government and education systems are continuously honed, skilled and developed and worked because effects were always highly and readily perceptible on a matter of how these two performs and responds.
Arguments--although they were only enumerated and discussed in four discrete manifestations, reading it was quite alarming because of the truth it duly brought , which brings about a lot of implications not only to the student who studies under it but as well as to the society where he lives in Each of these arguments has their own pro's and con,s. But what really took me in was the undoubtedly truth that i've seen in the reflections in our country. That is, both of our government and education systems have their own particular problems that they are facing and I beleive that its quite a foolish act to help a certain department with the difficulties and problems that they face when you know yourself that your very own department is also facing a lot of problems with your system, isn'''t that difficult?
But given tha circumstances, specially in the case of our country wher a lot of poor people are dependent om the government when it comes to education, I think it will work better off if the government will continuously focus on assisting the educational system, its just that, the government would really need to take full force, action, and help when it comes to building education whether its private or pubklic, because first and foremost, it utilizes the country's human resources' productivity and investment in developing the workforce is a good action to do. in the case of the voucher system, as it was said in the blog post, I agree with the author that it is simply dependent on the exertions made by the government wheteh they support it or not.
Ian Erwin D. Servañez
BSIT 2-4D
gUD DAy Sir!!!!
Cguro nga poh tma ung pinost niyo n kailangan tlaga ng bawat tao ang edukasyon lalo na panahon ngayon. Sa haba po ng post niyo bgamat di ko po talaga naintindihan ung iba ay may mga part po dun n tlagang npahinto ako sa pagbabasa at napaisip tulad na lamang po sa bandang unahan ng inyong post na tungkol dun sa taong may bgong kotse. Siguro nga po lahat naman tayo naghahangad na umunlad ang buhay at syempre naroon na rin po yung tulong ng edukasyon sa pagkamit nito. Yung part po na may "envy in those who watch me drive it down the street", di nman po siguro msamang mbili mo yung gusto mong bagay dahil nabili mo nman po yun dahil na rin sa pagsisikap mo,yun nga lang po ay inggit ang umiiral sa kapwa natin na nakikita nating umuunlad. Na sa halip na mtuwa tayo dahil sa tagumpay nila ay nakukuha pa nating mainggit sa kanila.
"Ignorance may perhaps produce crime- but education produces more competent criminals." Tama nga po na nadaragdagan ang ating kaalaman sa pag-aaral at ito po ang nagiging susi natin sa ating kaunlaran ngunit kung ito po gagamitin natin sa di magandang paraan ay magbubunga nga po ito ng maraming kriminal na wawasak sa ating lipunan balang araw.
Totoong mhalaga po ang edukasyon para sa lahat at kailangan po ng tulong ng gobyerno para lahat po ng tao'y magkamit ng tamang edukasyon na tutulong sa kanya para mas maging kapakipakinabang siyang mamamayan at mapaunlad niya ang kanyang buhay. Dito sa Pilipinas ay marami pong public school na sinusuportahan ng pamahalaan ngunit sapat po ba ang tulong n kanilang binibigay sa mga ito? Sa akin pong palagay ay hindi sapagkat marami pa rin pong mga mga kabataan ang di nakakapasok sa mga paaralan sapagkat di pa rin po abot ng bulsa ng kanilang mga magulang ang mga gastusin sa pagpapaaral sa kanila. Patunay lamang po ang marami pang mga kabataang di nkakapag-aral sa di pa talaga binubuhos ng pamahalaan ang dapat na tulong nila sa mga paaralang sila rin naman ang nagpatayo. Dapat ay tinodo na nila ang tulong sa mga ito para lahat na nang mga tao ay nagkaroon ng kaalaman sa dukasyon. Nasan na ang dapat ay tulong talaga ng pamahalaan sa edukasyon? San napupunta ang pondo para dito na ang mga mamamayan din naman ang pinagkukunan? Tumutulong lamang ba sila para makita at masabi ng mga tao na sila'y tumutulong nga? Ito ang mga tanong na hanggang ngayon po'y akin pang hinahanapan ng kasagutan...Hanggang dito na lmang po at hanggang sa muling post niyo po...Bye..
---> Lesly Monica E. Cruz
BSIT 2-4D
..ahmm,ang masasabi ko po about dun sa post e para po sa'kin wala namang pinagkaiba yung private at public school..in terms of teaching, pero yung about sa budget at facilities ng school e ibang usapan na yun..tulad na nga lang po dito sa PUP.. kulang sa facilities pero hindi naman yun naging lubusang hadlang para makapagtapos ang mga mag-aaral na katulad namin..
tungkol naman sa private at public schooling, naranasan ko na pong mag-aral sa public at private school.. may pinagkaiba sya.. syempre yung tuition.. mas mataas sa private at mababa naman sa public pero pareho lang naman yung pinag-aaralan.. ang experience ko lang po sa private sobrang tinututukan ng mga teachers ang estudyante, yun bang konting pagkakamali mo may punishment ka talagang katapat,kick out, expel or mag-mamanual ka pag mejo magaan lang ung kasalanan..siguro dahil sa catholic school yung napasukan ko..kaso ang disadvantage nga nya parang hindi masyadong ganun ka-attach sa gobyerno kasi nga private..saka naranasan ko din na hindi masyadong nakakabahagi yung school namin dun sa mga gatherings nung bayan namin..at isa pa kelangan ngang magprovide ng mayari ng school ng mga facilities para sa mga estudyate nila..at yun naman yung advantage ng public school..into government sila..kaya responsible ang gobyerno sa mga pangangailangan ng mga estudyante..
pero sa ngayon,nasa public school ako pero parang di ramdam yung suporta ng gobyerno sa school..kulang ang facilities, budget, etc..masasabi ko lang po hindi kaso kung private man or public ang papasukan mong school as long as nag-aaral ka ng mabuti makakatapos ka at maaabot mo ang mga pangarap mo.. hindi hadlang ang kawalan ng pera or what.. kung gusto talagang mag-aral ng isang tao..
un lang po sir..
Monica Amor C. Arroyo
BSIT 2-4D
It doesn't matter if what your school your into, private or public. What matters is the knowledge that the students will earn. PUP is a state university, it means that the government will support the education of the students. But, our school still have POOR facilities. There is no enough provision for the students. Students have to study hard and not depend on the facilities that the school and government should offer.
Jessie Lou S. Mendoza
BSIT 2-4D
They said that victory favors neither the wicked nor the great but it favors the prepared. The success of a person can not be determined by his/her weakness or greatness... Success is given upon to those who deserve them...it doesnt matter if what kind of school we came from... What matters is what we've wanted to do and to pursue....
John Kenneth Lim
BSIT 2-4D
Wow it’s too long…
Everyone saying education is very important to our lives. Without it life will be miserable or our future family will suffer. But this is one thing that is really hard to achieve. There is lot of hindrances that we should be able to pass through. And we are looking forward to the government to help us about this.
The responsibility of our parents is to educate us by sending us to schools, maybe private or public. They wanted us to learn and use that knowledge we earn in school to survive. When you’re family have higher income then they can support your studies in a private school. And if you belong to those in the middle class you study in a public school. But not all parents can afford to send their children in school.
Their saying studying in private schools is different from public schools. I would say yes. As a student in a public since in my elementary days, learning in private schools is different. They have higher tuition fee. They paid for their books and a lot more while in public the government subsidized it. Then we could say that we are lucky because we don’t pay anything for our education unlike those in private schools. But then subsidizing education is not well enough to learn the things we wanted to know.
In our country, education had been left or I should say it is poor. Like in PUP we wanted a quality education but then we are the one who is responsible for this. Why? We already know that we are lacking in budget. We don't have good facilities. But then we don't study well. We taking for granted the low tuition we are paying. We should be thankful that we can study for the amount of 12.00 even though that we pay less we should be given a quality education.
The government has many priorities but please don’t forget that education is important too. This is the place where future professionals will be train. The future is at their hand. But we should also be responsible to what will be our country in the future.
Maricel Villocillo
BPS 2-2
education is indeed what we really need, beacuse it can help us be successful in life and also help the society..but it doesn't matter if you come from a public or private school,the thing is we all have chances to study or be educated so we should not waste it..what is important is that we learn a lot of things that will make us better people,we need to work hard achieve what we really need..i knoe that the government really helps in our education but they should make more efforts for us to have better education..
as far as i know private schools offers "better education" than public schools,they have better facilities better equipments than what we have but it doesn't mean they're really better than us..it really depends on the student,on how he handles his education..
-Jhoanna Marie R. Dapat-
BSIT 2-4D
Well, education is very important to every single child living and who wants to learn in this world. It is indeed a very good idea to have this government schooling ever since so that every children or people in the world would have the chance to learn and gain knowledge in the most effective way. The different arguments actually really shows the different good and bad sides of this government schooling or even the private one. Well, if I were to ask about this government schooling, I hundred and twenty percent agree that gov't system of schooling is definetly important and have taken a large part in our education history.
Parents, administrators and especially the youth and children have all the right to decide for their own future. So I guess its better to have an option. Well, in the case of our nation and when it comes to education, people or parents can really decide whether or not, let their children go to private or public shools. But the education here in the Philippines has a very big difference compared to others who have the most and effective way of teaching and promoting learning in each and everyone of their people.
Our education here in our county, mostly I can say should have a lot of help from the government, cause it just can't stand on its own (except for the private of course).. Well its a big issue and a very complicated matter when we are talking about education, the important thing is, us(majority of the Filipino people)have at least a choice to let their children or let the youth themselves be educated or not. Government schooling system or even private schooling, are both important to our country's development.
If I were to ask, I think Adam Smith was also correct that government schooling system is still proper and a legitimate government function. So we should know how to treasure the things we've learned and the knowledge we've gained through education, whether its our choice, or our parents choice, or whoever choice's it was, the fact that we are learning is already a very precious treasure that we can ever have and will not be taken away from us. Education is yeah, a very important thing an individual should possess, cause it is not just for ourselves or for our family or for our future but also for the strong economy we are dreaming for.
Peace out!!!! an haaaaaba ng topic!!!!! whew man!!!=)
Chinne Marris Soreño
BSIT 2-4D
education is indeed a very good thing to have. it will be a very useful and versatile weapon as we walk along the endless path. for me, it doesnt matter whether your fron public or private school. that doesnt measure ones capacit and capabilities. the success of a person do not depend fron what school where you from, large part of the success largely depends on the person. but i also admit that having your schooling in a private school sometimes really matter.
education is indeed a very good thing to have. it will be a very useful and versatile weapon as we walk along the endless path. for me, it doesnt matter whether your fron public or private school. that doesnt measure ones capacit and capabilities. the success of a person do not depend fron what school where you from, large part of the success largely depends on the person. but i also admit that having your schooling in a private school sometimes really matter.
rydell dela cruz
bsit 2-4d
hayy...haba........
this is really interesting specially for us who are studying in a state university..
eventhough not all the companies look at the school an applicant came from, still most of them surely give priority for those who graduated from a well-known university.
that's why it's gonna be tougher for us to find a glamorous job..kaya kailangang maipakitang khit sa state univ. ka lang ngtapos we can be better than those who came from an exclusive school.
it doesn't matter whatever school you came from it depends on your own capabilities though sometimes we can feel the obvious discrimination...so what?if we can prove that we're even better than them...
it is true that it sometimes happen even today that if it is a government system school they can take control of what to be taught inside their school...it even happened here in the philippines when we were under spanish colonization they controlled the system of teaching that they've given us inferior knowledge...but offcourse filipinos were born intelligent having taught by them hasn't been a hindrance of regaining our freedom...thanks to those who faught for all of us...
again the school where we came from will not hinder our success if we'll do our best and use our knowledge we've learned from school plus the knowledge we've received as a gift from god we can definitely come up with a positive result...
Timothy Andrew N. Santos
BSIT II-4d
gud_pm sir! :)
that essay is really long... but informative and timely...
Education is viewed nowadays as an option for people to be globally competitive, unlike in the previous years. The importance of education as a way for a person to be successful and see himself as a complete, valuable being is no longer that vital. We have seen, read, or heard a number of successful personalities being featured that the elements of success is the way they would handle their attitudes in life—and education is not the main reason why they became successful. Or, a person can have a choice of not going formally to school to be educated, as long as he knows what to do right and just knows how to follow the rules or laws.
It is very sad to see the way people nowadays treat the once most important tool and treasure of life, especially in our country. Education in the Philippines is no longer given that much importance because of certain national problems and controversies which in turn greatly affects our system of learning.
The families, who should be the primary educators of the youth, are the ones who first lack the proper understanding on what could be the effects of good education. As long as they see their children finished schooling, whether or not they become ‘rightfully’ competitive, they are already satisfied.
The society also has a share to be blamed. Because of the way they view differently the educational (school) status of every person, they’ve created discrimination between those students who studies in the private school from those who studies in the public school. Money is a major determinant on which school and on what type of education is deserving for a person. And so, inequality in education, which is not supposed to happen, arises.
The government has, it seems, the biggest share of blame by how education in our country is being defined. It is the vast responsibility of the government to improve the system of education in our country, seeing education as an investment for the future; however, because of the lack of funds and other unimportant priorities being first attended to, it can no longer implement the proper solutions for the quickly increasing variety of crises in education. And the results: many public schools, a good example is the University of the Philippines, are one by one starting to privatize, now shouldering their own expenses just to meet the proper education that they should give to their students; the number of out-of-school-youth, if not increasing, is only reduced a little; many people nowadays don’t anymore believe that education is a way for them to reach their goals someday; and that the competence that is expected to the future leaders are now, little by little, disappearing.
Regarding the author’s voucher system as an answer to eliminate the disadvantages of governmental schooling, I don’t perceive it as a good solution because it will also have a tendency to limit the education that a person should actually have, being dependent on how far the voucher system can get him the proper education, and that person will also be under the indoctrination of the government schooling.
Everyone is entitled to a good education. It is a right rather than a privilege. There are many ways to achieve it. If everyone of us believes that education should still be prioritized above all, we don’t have to construct excuses for us not to have one. But whether we are attending under a private schooling or a governmental schooling (on this kind of educational system in our country), a question will still remain: are we getting the proper education that we should suppose to have? And the probable answer might be: perhaps.
Joan Michelle B. Mapanao
BPS 2ndyr.-Irregular (BPS 2-2)
12/14/07
WOW!
Super Long!
Novel?!
Well all I can say is, in our country I believe we filipinos are measured thru our knowledge and not by our material possessions. Though private and public schools are very different in facilities, teaching equipments, and teaching techniques, what matters most is what the students learned after every hours in the classroom. But the question is does every students get the education they needed, either there are in private or public school? the government should take an action about this kind of education in our country. ('coz you know what? I notice some discrimination here). Anyway, all of this things lies in every student who really wants to learn.
-Juliepen S. Gomez
BSIT 2-4D
ahm anu bang msasabi ko..?hmmM ^^
For me education is the greatest treasure in the world which is cannot be stollen by anybody...
sa panahon natin ngaun maraming tao ang mali ang pagkakaintindi sa edukasyong mula sa mga private and public schools.. madalas tingin nila sa mga taong nakapag-aral sa mga pribadong eskwelahan ay napakatatalino...at madalas ding may discrimination sa mga taga-pampublikong paaralan..
nag-aral na ko sa parehong eskwelahan..oo,..tama!, napakalaki talaga ng pagkakaiba sa pribado at pampublikong paaralan.. bukod sa tuition na napakalaki ng gap eh andun narin ung way of teaching.. mas madalas natututukang mabuti ang pag-aaral ng mga taga pribadong skul kasi kokonte yung bilang nila..eh sa pampubliko, eh napakadami at nagsisiksikang parang sardinas na kung madalas ay hinahati na lang ang araw para sa mga estudyante../*pero sa totoo lang mas marami akong natutunan nung nasa public skul ako marami kasing kakompetensya eh..CHALLENGING*/
para saken naniniwala parin ako dun sa kasabihan na "we are our own parents", at "nasa diyos ang awa nasa tao ang gawa"..
hindi naman sa kung saan ka nag-aral ang basehan dito eh...it depends on how the person will adopt and do his/her job being a student..nasa estudyante na ang key para marating nya ung goal niya sa buhay..hindi naman tamang just based your future in your school.. prestigious nga skul mo.. skul bukol ka naman..wala ding kwenta..
mas maganda pa siguro ung sa pampublikong paaralan ka galing na may pagpapahalaga sa pag-aaral, kung baga tinuturing na kayamanan ito ..
"EDUCATION" is the key for our better FUTURE
/*kaya habang maaga pa mag-aral kana..!(para sa mga taong walang pagpapahalga sa pag-aaral)..
bute ka nga nakakapag-aral eh ung ibang gustong mag-aral walang pampa-aral..!*/
aga pah..
antok na ko..hehe^^ (o.o)zzZZ
-Amiel john b. de las Alas
BSIT 2-4D
hmm.. ang haba naman nun,,tsk..
anyway,,gusto ko magfocus sa public and private schooling.. Naranasan ko na din kasi pumasok sa publis at private,, from that experience alam ko na ang laki ng pagkakaiba,,sa pagtuturo, sa training sa students at lalo nasa mga facilities.. nakakalungkot pero pag galing ka ng private tapos lilipat ka ng public bababa tingin mo sa edukasyon,,isang malaking dahilan siguro nito ay ung corruption sa ating gobyerno,,kaya kahit anong gawin hindi mapantayan ng public ang private kahit na mas maraming matalino sa na nasa public,
Isa na ring malaking factor ung ugaling napapamalas ng ilan sa mga guro sa public, sa private kasi,,bihira ka makabalita ng mga guro na nananakit ng estudyante pero di ko cinsabi na wala talaga,,pero kasi sa public alam natin na marami na ring naiulat tungkol dun.. Ako mismo nakaranas ng pananakit mula sa isang guro kaya alam ko na totoo talaga ung mga ganung pangyayari..
Ang mga magulang dapat talga na kahit busy sa work at kahit san man nag aaral ang anak nila,dapat nakaalalay pa rin sila. Huwag nila iasa sa mga guro lahat,,dahil kung may obligasyon ang guro sa mag-aaral mas malaki ang sa kanila..
para sa aki, hindi naman nakadepende ung buhay ng isang estudyante sa paaralan na pinapasukan niya, ke private man o public, kung matino at mahusay talaga ung estudyante hindi un magiging balakid para hindi sya magtagumpay sa buhay.. Kumbaga, nasa klase ng pagtingin ng estudyante sa sitwasyon niya ang resulta o magiging estado niya sa lipunan. Kung matino yan kahit ano gawin mo matino pa din yan, magkaroon man ng pagbabago at the end of the day, siya pa rin un, at desisyon niya na kung magbabago siya.
Dito na siguro papasok ang malaking role ng mga magulang..dahil minsan kapag nakikita ng anak na walang panahon sa kanya ang kanyang mga magulang dun nagsisimula magrebelde makakuha lang ng pansin kaya sana maisip ng mga magulang na hindi sapat na pinag- aaral niya ang anak niya,,hnidi dun nagtatapos ang obligasyon nila bilang magulang.
para sa akin, hindi naman nakadepende ung buhay ng isang estudyante sa paaralan na pinapasukan niya, ke private man o public, kung matino at mahusay talaga ung estudyante hindi un magiging balakid para hindi sya magtagumpay sa buhay.. Kumbaga, nasa klase ng pagtingin ng estudyante sa sitwasyon niya ang resulta o magiging estado niya sa lipunan. Kung matino yan kahit ano gawin mo matino pa din yan, magkaroon man ng pagbabago at the end of the day, siya pa rin un, at desisyon niya na kung magbabago siya.
Dito na siguro papasok ang malaking role ng mga magulang..dahil minsan kapag nakikita ng anak na walang panahon sa kanya ang kanyang mga magulang dun nagsisimula magrebelde makakuha lang ng pansin kaya sana maisip ng mga magulang na hindi sapat na pinag- aaral niya ang anak niya,,hnidi dun nagtatapos ang obligasyon nila bilang magulang.
Sa simula pa lang marerealize mo na isa isa ang mga kahinaan ng edukasyon sa atin..Hindi naman kasi tama na magkaroon ng discrimination sa kung private o public ung skul ng isang estudyante. Pero dahil na rin sa malaki talaga ang pagkakaiba ng dalawa, mula sa pamamalakad, sa pagtuturo ,sa trato sa estudyante, patuloy na lumalaki ang gap ng private sa public maaring malaki talaga ang kasalanan ng gobyerno dahil papasok dito ang kakulangagn sa budget etc etc.. Hindi nga makaya ng gobyerno na auysin ang gobyerno mismo diba.?so anu ang pede natin asahan na magagwa nila para maisaayos lahat ng gusot sa edukasyon,,mahihirapan sila lalo na ngayon na pantayan ang private schools, mahirap pero hindi imposible ang sa akin lang isa isa lang muna ang ayusin,,kasi minsan pilit pinag sasabay sabay hindi naman kaya..ayun ang siste eh lalo lang lumalala ung sitwasyon..problema ulit..ganun lang ng ganun..tsk!
Yes!! Education is one of the responsibilities of the government to provide it without charge. And in this way of schooling there are disadvantages that we can’t deny. We all know that in everything, there ain’t perfect. That is why we should accept things that way it is suppose to be(accept things that you can’t change). Learning for me, cannot be found just in school. You can learn everywhere. So these disadvantages that David Friedman saw in government schooling is not just the difficulty we can found in our society. Education should not just stop in school, and higher education should not just exist in private schools but it should be found in someone who has the willingness to learn beyond what the school teaches and explore things in its own for help himself improve more.
joyce m. barrientos
bsit 2-4d
HI sir!! skit sa bangs huh...
as i've read ur novel...hmmn..post po pla..hehehe..sa haba ña, ala ata aqng ngetch...
But i agree with the line.."ignorance may perhaps produce crime-but education produces more competent criminals".
huwaw!! amazing..tama nga nmn po kc diba..;D..edukado n eh..it means di n cla ganun maloloko or mauuto bagkus cl n ung gagawa nun sau..
And they said that education is the key to success, but when education is on talk, schools were on the line. About public and private system..for me..school is important factor din talaga in order to have a pleasant study...and based on what i've understood in what i hv read..your post pointing out that..the government must allocate a budget to public schools..(well..based on experience). So that eventhough it is a public school eh kaya ña rin dapat mkipgsbayan s private..Yup! wala ngang pinagkaiba ung nipagaaralan sa private schools..but then complete cla sa mga facilities malking salik un s maayos n pgaaral..
Sbagay pgcnbing eduksyon 'di lamang skwelhan or guro ang dapat pingtutuunan...dahil nanjan ang ating family, parents who are the major contributor as a human being..
thats it!! xenxa n poh huh..humabol lang po!!;D
…….it’s quite long, the arguments were intricate; arguments are still arguments….whatever it is. So I can see that even though our government is granting a contribution of money or subsidizing the education (some) , there’s still a weakness and failures that government has encountering. Well, I agree that government schooling is unconvincing too, because though it’s free and compulsory, there’ are still deficiencies on it.
For Adam Smith’s conclusion on the second paragraph, I don’t agree to it that government may prudently leave education and be privatized because the poor ones might get be poorer and they have to be subsidized. Though being in a private school is really cool and interesting, there are still the low class ones who are insufficient of education financing. Even though the government performs badly on education, they should take the risk in order to solve for it, otherwise might get worse and worse.
The arguments in the piece have implications to the society. It’s good to see that not only in the Philippines is having these weaknesses but also in some part of the world. The voucher system is a good idea for eliminating weaknesses on government schooling so the equality on education would work more. Maybe the purpose of this piece is to help the pipers on schooling financially or at least give a chance to be educated as well as the private schools that are helping together.
sorry for the late comment...
inabot n xa ng christmas,, hehe...
well actually i would like to share why i did'nt comment on time,,
it because were so busy for the pss wik and actually its too long,, that day when i was about to comment im so dizzy and no thoughts was perceived by my brain,, i printed it, but then again i was not able to read it until now..
so this is it...
all of my years in school, i am enrolled in a public school, i never tasted teachings from a private school even in my kinder days...
so i do not have points of comparisons whether which has a more quality education...
in every opening of classes we are bombarded by media picturing the worst situation in public schools, i experienced that...
but when it comes to quality education-there is a great debate about that.. quality education could not be achieved by mere facilities and resources... it is still in accordance with the perseverance of the student no matter what obstacles it may confront him...
the government as the carrier of the wills of the people also perform a major role in quality education...
in other countries, the state subsidize the education of the students without sacrificing its facilities and resources unlike here in our country....
how sad......
for the best system we should adopt, i do not have any idea as of now...
i like to thank my fate for delivering me in these public schools because these institutions mold me as a human person...
this country is more far to go,,
i believe we could achieve quality education to its excellency!!
The complexities of the arguments and the choice of words are quite hard to understand, but anyways, the entirety of the article talks about the inefficiency of the government to handle quality education as its priority.
This situation is very apparent in the educational condition prevalent in the Philippines. With the exception of the University of the Philippines, most top schools are privately owned. These top schools boasts the best instruments for learning and the best set of faculty there is. While those schools which we call state universities, more often than not, faces financial difficulties which are additional burden to the students as well.
But, despite this, I believe that the government should still be the one that is in the front line in terms of investing in education. A successful state should have an intelligent populace, capable of running a state.
Any other problems we face because of being controlled by the government are the fruits of ill-governance and corruption. If we wouldonly follow the examples of other countries in terms of education, our country and its people would be able to go far.
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